An anonymous submission from an amazing woman, friend, and student of Liana Shanti's. 🙏🏼💜 THIS is the reality of what many women face when they're finally aware of and ready to walk away from narcissistic abuse– MORE abuse. But she's re-building, and she WILL create an incredible new life for herself and her children:
"Malana
Due to my active legal cases and criminal investigation, I am posting anonymously.
For two decades my ex-husband and I shared the same spiritual beliefs. Combined, we enrolled in thousands of dollars worth of personal development programs, coaching, and events to include working with shamans and psychics as well as other professionals.
Once I chose to separate from him, ex-husband chose to join in this same cult narrative in an attempt to discredit me and distract from possible accusations of abuse which I hadn’t even made yet. I was so confused, scared, and emotionally struggling when we first separated I didn’t understand what he was doing and why until months and even over a year later as I continued to heal and learned to put words to my experiences during our marriage. Words like “coercive control,” “narcissism,” and even “rape.” It took Liana Shanti’s healing work, my therapist, a Domestic Violence counselor and a Sexual Assault Victim Advocate to bring me to the reality of who my ex is and what I survived.
As I moved through my healing process and pulled together the pieces of my marriage and childhood, I finally realized my father was one of the four men involved in my sexual abuse as a child. Just like you, my ex feigned support for a very short period of time and then began to use my pain to further discredit me claiming these memories were “planted” somehow by Liana. Thankfully, law enforcement and other professionals well-versed in the accuracy of childhood trauma memories didn’t agree with him.
During our separation my ex-husband solicited the support of several flying monkeys to include Church members, family, and friends. While I kept silent about the specifics of our divorce for the sake of our children, he spun a web of lies in an attempt to discredit me while simultaneously attempting to win me back—as crazy as that sounds. Little did he realize, I will never return now that professionals and his own actions have made the truth UNDENIABLE.
The biggest heartbreak is for our children and all that they have endured because of his actions. I’ve continued to do my best to protect them and keep the peace throughout this situation. Thankfully our children are old enough to see the truth on their own. He exposes himself every moment they spend with him. In every communication and legal situation I continue to keep their interests as THE PRIORITY as he continues to battle for control of them and our finances in an attempt to harm me.
I continue to be traumatized on a regular basis post-separation yet leaving him was the best decision I’ve made. Our freedom is worth every hardship we’ve endured. Providing our children with an environment of peace 50% of the time is still better than what we experienced 100% of the time under a roof with him.
I’ve surrendered my need for Justice or to prove who is right or wrong in this situation. I know what I experienced, I know the truth, my children know some of the truth, and so does Jesus. Family Court is a not a place to seek justice. I’ve already put myself into debt simply trying to reach an agreement to move forward. This system and process feels like paying professional babysitters and surrogate parents to force an unreasonable, sadistic spouse into some form of agreement—hopefully in the best interests of the children, but often not.
I can sleep at night knowing I stood up for myself and refused to tolerate another day of abuse and my children witnessed that. I am a CYCLE BREAKER.
I appreciate Liana Shanti, every non-profit and professional who has believed me and supported me through this process. I can’t imagine walking through this alone and invalidated. Thank you for BELIEVING ME."
If you go to the screenshots of Joe Scoppino's group posts that Malana linked, you will see my name first, front and center in a response from Joe. Aaralyn. That's because I often commented on Joe's posts. Having myself been higher on the narcissist scale before healing, I recognized those same things in Joe.
It's hard for narcissists to heal, and I didn't want to just say, DUDE, you're a narcissist. So I shared the things I had found within myself and how I went about healing them.
These are very personal personal details (many say VULNERABLE) that I shared, believing that Joe Scoppino was genuinely trying to heal. So finding out that he was manipulating me and the others all along - is disgusting. It's disgusting to me that he lied and emotionally manipulated myself and the other women, and is now weaponizing that information to harm them...as you described, Malana.
Luckily, I don't have children either, or an ex. I was unattached when I found Liana's work. I also never met Joe in person. I think I talked to him once on the phone or messaged him, because he was working for a website company, and I had questions about it.
People, like Joe, who have been Liana's students at some point or family members who have been broken up with - cry cult because they don't want to accept accountability for their actions. And they're angry they've lost control of you.
Most people don't understand deep devotion to themselves, Jesus and a human teacher. And it scares them. Other cultures have "gurus" and teachers.
Look up Maharaji and his students, Ram Dass and Krishna Das. Read about their devotion to Maharaji. Crying when they couldn't touch him or be with him. Krishna Das was devastated and returned to self destruction for a period of time after leaving India when he couldn't see Maharaji anymore.
To see Liana Shanti and her students, many of whom are protective mothers, being attacked in this way is sickening. Liana's work has helped me lose 140 pounds, maintain 5+ years, heal PCOS, depression, chronic migraines, acid reflux, adrenal fatigue...that's just the physical stuff.
I also struggled with binge & emotional eating and food addiction. Eating to the point of vomiting. Which I don't do anymore. I used to believe I was a piece of trash. I used to wonder why I was even alive. Multiple occasions I wished I could just not be here anymore.
I also had fantasies about being raped. I was addicted to very violent porn. That was me, after being raised and "mentored," by my mom, Wanda Price. My mom also conveniently cried cult many years ago, even though she knows I'm not in a cult just because I am a student of Liana Shanti.
I live in the same town I grew up in, I now have two thriving, local businesses. I contribute to my local community, and I am well loved and respected by my clients.
Back to the rape fantasies. Don't have those anymore. I also have purpose, and I see value in my life now. I don't have any coping mechanisms or addictions anymore. I love myself a million times more than I did when I believed was a walking piece of trash.
People who are miserable and hate themselves, seek to cause harm. They cannot stand to see anyone else be happy or thrive, because it shines a light on their own misery and failure. How do I know this? I have personal experience eradicating that from my being.
We have the right to live peaceful lives and not be harassed and harmed for our spiritual and religious beliefs, just because some adults acting like 2 year old demon children are pissed because they didn't get their way.
Joe Scoppino, Laura Scoppino, and the others seeking to harm mothers and children by lying in a court of law...it's vomit worthy.
I have been a student of Liana Shanti for 10+ years. I know the work, I know her, I know her teachings. They have been consistent for 10+ years, and life changing. These people are trying to come in and paint their narrative using half truths and outright lies. While her students are laughing at them the whole time because of how clueless they are.
But anyway, thank you Malana for relentlessly sharing truth and facts. The world needs to know.
Malana, I was kept emotionally hostage by an ex and it was so devastating that it still continued to haunt me even after 5 whole years. It wasn't until Liana's work that I had the tools to break through the trauma. Speaking from personal experience, a person who is abused in this way does not go onto submit false affidavits and destroy the lives of others. They are too broken to even human. I remember my probably one direct interaction with Joe, it was on one of the threads in the group where you had shared about your journey and process and he came forth to engage with my comment and added for you and everyone to see that how he always believed in you and was so happy for you. Which didn't seem to add up. You know? Because you would share your biz journey on ig and in personal conversations with you, you knew what you wanted to do but the energy to do that ended up being like a balloon with a hole in it. You used to pump it with all your energy but after a while it was deflated. The sweeping in as prince charming hyping you up in posts and threads and yet the disdain you were in behind the scenes, did not add up. Liana's work and communities are so soul affirming and love filled, but to even accept love, one's light demands one to step up. He didn't do that. Instead made the vile & criminal attempt with the false affidavits to keep children of beautiful protective parents away from love and safety. I mean, it's crazy that every person who starts thinking for themselves is said to be in a cult. If cult here means Co-creating ULtimate Transcendence it would have been accurate but rather it's just projected sadism that how dare one break free to be happy while they remain stuck and miserable. I think it's cognitively hard for some people to grasp that we respect and love Liana out of our free will unlike the typical cliche families where one is forced to respect and follow the head of the family. Thank you for being a powerful voice of Light!
Its been hard to see someone, actually THE MOST LOVING person on this earth, be talked about in such a degrading way. By people who don't even know Liana, don't know shit about her teachings, but are feeling so threatened by her light and her unwavering stance in truth.and even Joe Scoppino who did know Liana's teachings but couldn't handle the truth anymore. Any sane person would just walk away and stop doing the work. Only someone in such self hatred, misery, and desire to control would leave and go on to smear, harm, and abuse Liana, Malana, and the group of women, and a few men, that he loved to mooch off of. AND HARM INNOCENT CHILDREN, even more than they already have been by the abusive "fathers" he aligned with.
I had zero interaction with him outside of Liana's Facebook groups, but the last comment I made to him included a quote from Liana that said "definitely do not allow your ego to give up on your soul".
I don't believe he acknowledged that part at all, not surprisingly.
I personally started Liana's programs before my husband and would every now and then ask him to listen or do them too. My husband actually cried cult too in the beginning of my healing journey. I honestly don't know what switched within him to where he now shares Liana's work with so many people and he even to his old friends that he cried cult too, he shared with them that he was wrong in doing that.
Reading that Joe said we held him emotionally hostage is HILARIOUS, but then I also feel angry because it's the furthest thing from the truth, no one made Joe come to these groups and share in detail about his shitty upbringing or his shitty hemorrhoids, that was all his free will. Angry that what liars like Joe do is blame their wrong doings onto their victims. It's so sickening.
Thank you so much Malana for sharing this all so clearly for us to understand & process, and the questions at the end too. Very helpful 🙏💜💜💜💜 sending you lots of love ❤️❤️❤️
This is so well written Malana. The more I heal, the more I am able to feel the insincerity in his words. Back then, not so much and was actually rooting for him. He was trying hard to be liked/not seen as the bad guy whilst simultaneously feeling resentful about it. If anything, he was keeping himself emotionally hostage. Perfect example of covert narcissism and how they will always try to save face depending on who they are speaking to. Thank you for continuing to share your story and I send love to you and everyone who has been affected by his actions.
The thing about Joey being a wolf in sheep's clothing is that at some point he decided he would do harm. THAT is something that I don't believe anyone in Liana's community including myself could have ever fathomed he would ever do.
Joey you don't want to do the healing work, no problem, don't.
The ONLY problem is that he made a conscious and deliberate choice to harm women in our community by writing false affidavits in addition to being part of the smear campaign against you and Liana. It is beyond unconscionable he did that to a community of women who did nothing but support him and encourage him on his own healing journey.
While I did not personally feel emotionally manipulated by him because I could see that he loved getting the attention, I kept my interactions in the groups with him at a bare minimum. However, that didn't keep me from being absolutely sickened to my stomach to read the fact that he wrote false affidavits that deliberately have caused harm to children and their mothers. Women and children whom he never ever met personally. I can never reconcile this kind of evil. Especially to write anything less than honorable about Liana Shanti herself but instead start a smear campaign against her spreading nothing but lies. A woman who gave him a space in her online community to be supported in his healing journey and supported him fully when he shared in the groups. No, I can never reconcile this evil but I absolutely join you and Liana in setting the record straight. Liana did nothing to hurt Joey, offered him unconditional love and guidance on the things he shared. That's it, and that is not a fucking cult.
My interactions with Joey came into a short frequency when I hired him to do my website which I did in my desire to show support to you and him as a family since he had the skills to do what I needed. So all I know of him personally is on a professional level. He did do what I hired him to do which I thanked him for and wished him well when he left you and Liana's community. I did share with him some parts of my journey since he was learning about me for my website but it was nothing that I haven't shared in our community openly about eradicating fear from my life. I have very strong boundaries with men who are married so nothing can ever be misconstrued. Thankfully, these boundaries kept me from being emotionally manipulated by him.
Of course, I felt sadness when he left because I was always hopeful he was on the healing path with you and that together you were both progressing into a bright future. I didn't understand what was happening behind the scenes because it's none of my business. None of us are obliged to share everything and Liana has often said, we never know the whole story. And since it isn't any of our business what happened behind closed doors with you and Joey, it was never something any of us ever asked you to share.
However, it became our business in as much to understand how this was even possible when Joey decided to slander and defame Liana and you. In addition to the colluding with criminals to take away children in the name of saving them from a cult. Which he knows with 100% certainty Liana's community is not a cult. That is why he could leave without anyone asking, begging him to stay or showed up at his parents doorsteps to bring him back. No one did such things. I mean can you imagine if anyone hired those criminals to bring him back? I have a feeling he wouldn't like that type of deprogramming. And where would we even tell these criminals to bring him back to? His cell phone? His laptop? It's so ridiculous. 🙄 Absolutely NO ONE held him hostage in ANY way.
As someone who has been in every single online group Liana has offered since 2012, I have seen hundreds of people come and go without any notice whatsoever unless of course they announce themselves before leaving. To which Liana has said, it's not an airport, a departure notice is absolutely not necessary...LOL. Why? Because she doesn't care if people chose to leave, that is their choice. Liana teaches us sovereignty and that means she also honors ours.
I also have to roll my eyes at his mother's letter worried about his health. I mean I never met Joey in person but in what cult is being healthy a pre-requisite??? It's laughable at best and cynical at worst what he went home and told his parents about you, Liana, and our community.
Thank you for setting the record straight about who the REAL Joey is and what lies, deception, slander and smear campaign he initiated because it's absolutely unacceptable that he thinks he can get away with doing that much evil and harm and you weren't going to defend yourself.
Thank God your life IS Lifeproof that Liana's programs work so that you can be a woman that is empowered to speak the truth even after having lived with a narcissist like him. I pray for justice for you, Liana and the women he has harmed. May it come swiftly.
Much love to you always Malana!! You are a force to be reckoned with!!!
Thank you for shining a light and BEING a shining light. Your words are encouraging others to show up and speak up too 🙏
Much of this is hard to read and it's a blatant reminder to drop the rose-colored glasses and look at things for what they are and most of all — to look at someone's ACTIONS before looking at their words. Something Liana Shanti teaches with such elegance.
Unforgivable that he would do that to kids. He clearly knows nothing about parenting. When God gives people talents and abilities it is for them to step up for those who are weaker and need help like some women and children, not for ego to feed off of them just so they feel significant.
Mathew 25:
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
An anonymous submission from an amazing woman, friend, and student of Liana Shanti's. 🙏🏼💜 THIS is the reality of what many women face when they're finally aware of and ready to walk away from narcissistic abuse– MORE abuse. But she's re-building, and she WILL create an incredible new life for herself and her children:
"Malana
Due to my active legal cases and criminal investigation, I am posting anonymously.
For two decades my ex-husband and I shared the same spiritual beliefs. Combined, we enrolled in thousands of dollars worth of personal development programs, coaching, and events to include working with shamans and psychics as well as other professionals.
Once I chose to separate from him, ex-husband chose to join in this same cult narrative in an attempt to discredit me and distract from possible accusations of abuse which I hadn’t even made yet. I was so confused, scared, and emotionally struggling when we first separated I didn’t understand what he was doing and why until months and even over a year later as I continued to heal and learned to put words to my experiences during our marriage. Words like “coercive control,” “narcissism,” and even “rape.” It took Liana Shanti’s healing work, my therapist, a Domestic Violence counselor and a Sexual Assault Victim Advocate to bring me to the reality of who my ex is and what I survived.
As I moved through my healing process and pulled together the pieces of my marriage and childhood, I finally realized my father was one of the four men involved in my sexual abuse as a child. Just like you, my ex feigned support for a very short period of time and then began to use my pain to further discredit me claiming these memories were “planted” somehow by Liana. Thankfully, law enforcement and other professionals well-versed in the accuracy of childhood trauma memories didn’t agree with him.
During our separation my ex-husband solicited the support of several flying monkeys to include Church members, family, and friends. While I kept silent about the specifics of our divorce for the sake of our children, he spun a web of lies in an attempt to discredit me while simultaneously attempting to win me back—as crazy as that sounds. Little did he realize, I will never return now that professionals and his own actions have made the truth UNDENIABLE.
The biggest heartbreak is for our children and all that they have endured because of his actions. I’ve continued to do my best to protect them and keep the peace throughout this situation. Thankfully our children are old enough to see the truth on their own. He exposes himself every moment they spend with him. In every communication and legal situation I continue to keep their interests as THE PRIORITY as he continues to battle for control of them and our finances in an attempt to harm me.
I continue to be traumatized on a regular basis post-separation yet leaving him was the best decision I’ve made. Our freedom is worth every hardship we’ve endured. Providing our children with an environment of peace 50% of the time is still better than what we experienced 100% of the time under a roof with him.
I’ve surrendered my need for Justice or to prove who is right or wrong in this situation. I know what I experienced, I know the truth, my children know some of the truth, and so does Jesus. Family Court is a not a place to seek justice. I’ve already put myself into debt simply trying to reach an agreement to move forward. This system and process feels like paying professional babysitters and surrogate parents to force an unreasonable, sadistic spouse into some form of agreement—hopefully in the best interests of the children, but often not.
I can sleep at night knowing I stood up for myself and refused to tolerate another day of abuse and my children witnessed that. I am a CYCLE BREAKER.
I appreciate Liana Shanti, every non-profit and professional who has believed me and supported me through this process. I can’t imagine walking through this alone and invalidated. Thank you for BELIEVING ME."
If you go to the screenshots of Joe Scoppino's group posts that Malana linked, you will see my name first, front and center in a response from Joe. Aaralyn. That's because I often commented on Joe's posts. Having myself been higher on the narcissist scale before healing, I recognized those same things in Joe.
It's hard for narcissists to heal, and I didn't want to just say, DUDE, you're a narcissist. So I shared the things I had found within myself and how I went about healing them.
These are very personal personal details (many say VULNERABLE) that I shared, believing that Joe Scoppino was genuinely trying to heal. So finding out that he was manipulating me and the others all along - is disgusting. It's disgusting to me that he lied and emotionally manipulated myself and the other women, and is now weaponizing that information to harm them...as you described, Malana.
Luckily, I don't have children either, or an ex. I was unattached when I found Liana's work. I also never met Joe in person. I think I talked to him once on the phone or messaged him, because he was working for a website company, and I had questions about it.
People, like Joe, who have been Liana's students at some point or family members who have been broken up with - cry cult because they don't want to accept accountability for their actions. And they're angry they've lost control of you.
Most people don't understand deep devotion to themselves, Jesus and a human teacher. And it scares them. Other cultures have "gurus" and teachers.
Look up Maharaji and his students, Ram Dass and Krishna Das. Read about their devotion to Maharaji. Crying when they couldn't touch him or be with him. Krishna Das was devastated and returned to self destruction for a period of time after leaving India when he couldn't see Maharaji anymore.
To see Liana Shanti and her students, many of whom are protective mothers, being attacked in this way is sickening. Liana's work has helped me lose 140 pounds, maintain 5+ years, heal PCOS, depression, chronic migraines, acid reflux, adrenal fatigue...that's just the physical stuff.
I also struggled with binge & emotional eating and food addiction. Eating to the point of vomiting. Which I don't do anymore. I used to believe I was a piece of trash. I used to wonder why I was even alive. Multiple occasions I wished I could just not be here anymore.
I also had fantasies about being raped. I was addicted to very violent porn. That was me, after being raised and "mentored," by my mom, Wanda Price. My mom also conveniently cried cult many years ago, even though she knows I'm not in a cult just because I am a student of Liana Shanti.
I live in the same town I grew up in, I now have two thriving, local businesses. I contribute to my local community, and I am well loved and respected by my clients.
Back to the rape fantasies. Don't have those anymore. I also have purpose, and I see value in my life now. I don't have any coping mechanisms or addictions anymore. I love myself a million times more than I did when I believed was a walking piece of trash.
People who are miserable and hate themselves, seek to cause harm. They cannot stand to see anyone else be happy or thrive, because it shines a light on their own misery and failure. How do I know this? I have personal experience eradicating that from my being.
We have the right to live peaceful lives and not be harassed and harmed for our spiritual and religious beliefs, just because some adults acting like 2 year old demon children are pissed because they didn't get their way.
Joe Scoppino, Laura Scoppino, and the others seeking to harm mothers and children by lying in a court of law...it's vomit worthy.
I have been a student of Liana Shanti for 10+ years. I know the work, I know her, I know her teachings. They have been consistent for 10+ years, and life changing. These people are trying to come in and paint their narrative using half truths and outright lies. While her students are laughing at them the whole time because of how clueless they are.
But anyway, thank you Malana for relentlessly sharing truth and facts. The world needs to know.
Malana, I was kept emotionally hostage by an ex and it was so devastating that it still continued to haunt me even after 5 whole years. It wasn't until Liana's work that I had the tools to break through the trauma. Speaking from personal experience, a person who is abused in this way does not go onto submit false affidavits and destroy the lives of others. They are too broken to even human. I remember my probably one direct interaction with Joe, it was on one of the threads in the group where you had shared about your journey and process and he came forth to engage with my comment and added for you and everyone to see that how he always believed in you and was so happy for you. Which didn't seem to add up. You know? Because you would share your biz journey on ig and in personal conversations with you, you knew what you wanted to do but the energy to do that ended up being like a balloon with a hole in it. You used to pump it with all your energy but after a while it was deflated. The sweeping in as prince charming hyping you up in posts and threads and yet the disdain you were in behind the scenes, did not add up. Liana's work and communities are so soul affirming and love filled, but to even accept love, one's light demands one to step up. He didn't do that. Instead made the vile & criminal attempt with the false affidavits to keep children of beautiful protective parents away from love and safety. I mean, it's crazy that every person who starts thinking for themselves is said to be in a cult. If cult here means Co-creating ULtimate Transcendence it would have been accurate but rather it's just projected sadism that how dare one break free to be happy while they remain stuck and miserable. I think it's cognitively hard for some people to grasp that we respect and love Liana out of our free will unlike the typical cliche families where one is forced to respect and follow the head of the family. Thank you for being a powerful voice of Light!
Its been hard to see someone, actually THE MOST LOVING person on this earth, be talked about in such a degrading way. By people who don't even know Liana, don't know shit about her teachings, but are feeling so threatened by her light and her unwavering stance in truth.and even Joe Scoppino who did know Liana's teachings but couldn't handle the truth anymore. Any sane person would just walk away and stop doing the work. Only someone in such self hatred, misery, and desire to control would leave and go on to smear, harm, and abuse Liana, Malana, and the group of women, and a few men, that he loved to mooch off of. AND HARM INNOCENT CHILDREN, even more than they already have been by the abusive "fathers" he aligned with.
I had zero interaction with him outside of Liana's Facebook groups, but the last comment I made to him included a quote from Liana that said "definitely do not allow your ego to give up on your soul".
I don't believe he acknowledged that part at all, not surprisingly.
I personally started Liana's programs before my husband and would every now and then ask him to listen or do them too. My husband actually cried cult too in the beginning of my healing journey. I honestly don't know what switched within him to where he now shares Liana's work with so many people and he even to his old friends that he cried cult too, he shared with them that he was wrong in doing that.
Reading that Joe said we held him emotionally hostage is HILARIOUS, but then I also feel angry because it's the furthest thing from the truth, no one made Joe come to these groups and share in detail about his shitty upbringing or his shitty hemorrhoids, that was all his free will. Angry that what liars like Joe do is blame their wrong doings onto their victims. It's so sickening.
Thank you so much Malana for sharing this all so clearly for us to understand & process, and the questions at the end too. Very helpful 🙏💜💜💜💜 sending you lots of love ❤️❤️❤️
This is so well written Malana. The more I heal, the more I am able to feel the insincerity in his words. Back then, not so much and was actually rooting for him. He was trying hard to be liked/not seen as the bad guy whilst simultaneously feeling resentful about it. If anything, he was keeping himself emotionally hostage. Perfect example of covert narcissism and how they will always try to save face depending on who they are speaking to. Thank you for continuing to share your story and I send love to you and everyone who has been affected by his actions.
The thing about Joey being a wolf in sheep's clothing is that at some point he decided he would do harm. THAT is something that I don't believe anyone in Liana's community including myself could have ever fathomed he would ever do.
Joey you don't want to do the healing work, no problem, don't.
The ONLY problem is that he made a conscious and deliberate choice to harm women in our community by writing false affidavits in addition to being part of the smear campaign against you and Liana. It is beyond unconscionable he did that to a community of women who did nothing but support him and encourage him on his own healing journey.
While I did not personally feel emotionally manipulated by him because I could see that he loved getting the attention, I kept my interactions in the groups with him at a bare minimum. However, that didn't keep me from being absolutely sickened to my stomach to read the fact that he wrote false affidavits that deliberately have caused harm to children and their mothers. Women and children whom he never ever met personally. I can never reconcile this kind of evil. Especially to write anything less than honorable about Liana Shanti herself but instead start a smear campaign against her spreading nothing but lies. A woman who gave him a space in her online community to be supported in his healing journey and supported him fully when he shared in the groups. No, I can never reconcile this evil but I absolutely join you and Liana in setting the record straight. Liana did nothing to hurt Joey, offered him unconditional love and guidance on the things he shared. That's it, and that is not a fucking cult.
My interactions with Joey came into a short frequency when I hired him to do my website which I did in my desire to show support to you and him as a family since he had the skills to do what I needed. So all I know of him personally is on a professional level. He did do what I hired him to do which I thanked him for and wished him well when he left you and Liana's community. I did share with him some parts of my journey since he was learning about me for my website but it was nothing that I haven't shared in our community openly about eradicating fear from my life. I have very strong boundaries with men who are married so nothing can ever be misconstrued. Thankfully, these boundaries kept me from being emotionally manipulated by him.
Of course, I felt sadness when he left because I was always hopeful he was on the healing path with you and that together you were both progressing into a bright future. I didn't understand what was happening behind the scenes because it's none of my business. None of us are obliged to share everything and Liana has often said, we never know the whole story. And since it isn't any of our business what happened behind closed doors with you and Joey, it was never something any of us ever asked you to share.
However, it became our business in as much to understand how this was even possible when Joey decided to slander and defame Liana and you. In addition to the colluding with criminals to take away children in the name of saving them from a cult. Which he knows with 100% certainty Liana's community is not a cult. That is why he could leave without anyone asking, begging him to stay or showed up at his parents doorsteps to bring him back. No one did such things. I mean can you imagine if anyone hired those criminals to bring him back? I have a feeling he wouldn't like that type of deprogramming. And where would we even tell these criminals to bring him back to? His cell phone? His laptop? It's so ridiculous. 🙄 Absolutely NO ONE held him hostage in ANY way.
As someone who has been in every single online group Liana has offered since 2012, I have seen hundreds of people come and go without any notice whatsoever unless of course they announce themselves before leaving. To which Liana has said, it's not an airport, a departure notice is absolutely not necessary...LOL. Why? Because she doesn't care if people chose to leave, that is their choice. Liana teaches us sovereignty and that means she also honors ours.
I also have to roll my eyes at his mother's letter worried about his health. I mean I never met Joey in person but in what cult is being healthy a pre-requisite??? It's laughable at best and cynical at worst what he went home and told his parents about you, Liana, and our community.
Thank you for setting the record straight about who the REAL Joey is and what lies, deception, slander and smear campaign he initiated because it's absolutely unacceptable that he thinks he can get away with doing that much evil and harm and you weren't going to defend yourself.
Thank God your life IS Lifeproof that Liana's programs work so that you can be a woman that is empowered to speak the truth even after having lived with a narcissist like him. I pray for justice for you, Liana and the women he has harmed. May it come swiftly.
Much love to you always Malana!! You are a force to be reckoned with!!!
Thank you for shining a light and BEING a shining light. Your words are encouraging others to show up and speak up too 🙏
Much of this is hard to read and it's a blatant reminder to drop the rose-colored glasses and look at things for what they are and most of all — to look at someone's ACTIONS before looking at their words. Something Liana Shanti teaches with such elegance.
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Unforgivable that he would do that to kids. He clearly knows nothing about parenting. When God gives people talents and abilities it is for them to step up for those who are weaker and need help like some women and children, not for ego to feed off of them just so they feel significant.
Mathew 25:
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’